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Post by Riku on Mar 8, 2020 1:43:51 GMT -6
Does being adept cause multiple ranks of 1SP/rank skills cost 0.5, while only the total (if 'x.5') has to be rounded up? This is in general, not about magic skills.
For a magic example, however, Learn Spell is 1SP/MP. If it is a 4MP spell, does it cost 2MP? And if you have 20MP of spells learned through it, but all being 5MP spells, would that be 10SP (half total cost), 12SP (half cost each spell, rounding up to 3SP each), or 20SP (adept not influencing spells learned)...?
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Post by Darky on Mar 8, 2020 7:43:35 GMT -6
I may not be understanding this quite right, but right off the bat I can say, Adept only reduces the Skill Point cost specifically. Spell MP would remain unchanged. In the case of Learn Spell, a spell that costs 4 MP to cast would require 2 Skill Points to learn, but it would still be a 4 MP spell regardless. Otherwise any x.5 is rounded up to the next decimal, so 0.5 = 1 , 1.5 = 2 , 5.5 = 6, and so forth. Did I understand the question right? x3
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Post by Noa on Mar 8, 2020 11:15:39 GMT -6
I'm curious about this too, since I'd like some clarification on exactly how Adept works with Learn Spell. I'd been under the impression that each SP spent on Learn Spell the skill was a separate skill rank, but rereading it, the cost only says:
So would the 'ranks' be taken on a spell-by-spell basis instead? Like "Learn Spell - Mass Teleport" would be its own 'skill' with a total cost of 12SP, eligible to be halved by Adept to 6?
I thiiiink (and I could be wrong on this too) Adept usually treats each "skill rank" separately, so if something costs 1 SP per rank and has 6 ranks, it still costs 6 SP if you have 'Adept' because each skill rank rounds up (from 0.5 to 1) and you can't just take all 6 ranks at once and spend only 3 SP.
But if Learn Spell treats each spell as a whole 'rank', rather than each MP as one 'rank', then a 12-MP spell could be learned by an Adept (Magic) character with only 6 SP?
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Post by Darky on Mar 8, 2020 12:53:27 GMT -6
From what I've understood, Learn Spell isn't done by ranks, you just take that separately again for each Spell. So, yeah, "Learn Spell - Mass Teleport" would be its own skill (at least, that's how I've been listing them) and the default Skill Point cost is equivalent to the spell's MP cost (Default Skill Point cost being the thing that gets affected by Adept, Jack of All Trades and other Skill Group affects after the fact, as if it was the listed cost).
Aster's correct on Adept only halving skill ranks :3 That's how I've done Combat ranks as well, otherwise it wouldn't make sense to get a 'bulk discount' on SP if you just hoarded points and then threw them all into ranks in one go x3
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Post by Riku on Mar 8, 2020 14:30:19 GMT -6
Yeah, sorry, I did mean 4MP would cost 2SP. I had a typo. ;)
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