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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 8:50:55 GMT -6
Really short and sweet, approximately how big are weavers?
Are they standard house spider size ranging from itty itty bitty to about a quarter in diameter?
Or are they camel spider growing into Shelob from Lord Of The Rings size?
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Post by Morgan on May 5, 2020 9:04:16 GMT -6
Memory withstanding, Weaver are -big- (especially for a spider) as adults. I think somewhere close to the knee or maybe thigh of the sizechart model at least?
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Post by Alma on May 5, 2020 13:02:58 GMT -6
I think, as of their old stage, they were about waist height when in their drawn pose. The adults had a rearing pose that made them look a similar height though I think they were closer to knee height when crawling around, the juvies were the size of a small dog/soccer ball, and the babies were a swarm of spiders that were little bigger than normal garden spiders, each maybe an inch long.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 15:33:39 GMT -6
As an aside, me as a player, I am so glad Atari does not have arachnophobia. Gosh Kaz is going to be large.
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Post by Flare on May 5, 2020 15:58:54 GMT -6
Actually, Kaz already IS large. He is by art, already considerd his mature ‘old’ stage. x.20
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 16:08:52 GMT -6
Actually, Kaz already IS large. He is by art, already considerd his mature ‘old’ stage. x.20 Just need admin / mod confirmation. Skipping to mature stats, then?
I don't go based off of the image, simply because, having looked at the backstory, I presumed some young weaver artwork went missing?
Cause that would cause loyalty conflicts...and training conflicts? Unless free to adopt pets are trained up to adult?
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Post by Renathan on May 5, 2020 16:13:21 GMT -6
Actually, Kaz already IS large. He is by art, already considerd his mature ‘old’ stage. x.20 Just need admin / mod confirmation. Skipping to mature stats, then?
I don't go based off of the image, simply because, having looked at the backstory, I presumed some young weaver artwork went missing?
Cause that would cause loyalty conflicts...and training conflicts? Unless free to adopt pets are trained up to adult?
I recently retired from being a moderator at the first of this month and figured I'd answer this one quickly. :3 I'm sure a current moderator will get to you soon if it would put you at more ease. Yes, Weavers are presently in Old Age. All MML species (LE and Common breeds) are in a static age that depends on their current stage of growth as a species (it was how the old main site artist creator used to do things and how things are ran with MML species). We do have the old images for most breeds/species, but they have to be antigrown/regrown using a potion from current age to be 'de-aged' to a different age than the standard one that the species is at from adoption. They aren't trained up to adult, and this does generally cause training/loyalty conflicts. These are typically remedied using the potions that are picked up from the Herbologist's delight shop. I apologize for any inconvenience.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 16:23:16 GMT -6
Well, this is a bit frustrating.
This information wasn't readily available (similar with the sizes) so there was no way for me to know about this. Other than a mod seeing it and just giving me a heads up?
Potions - I'm presuming they cost - which I need to post for. And, I'm just starting to post. So, I'm put a little behind the curve just for starting out.
And again, I'm completely new. Some of the information I gather from the links and such, but I had no idea to presume ages from the images. Just cause forums tend to run slightly different than say a site.
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Post by Flare on May 5, 2020 16:24:15 GMT -6
We got together as a group and got you this as a welcome present.
[img] http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa42/MML_Staff/MML_items/potion_regrow.gif[/img]
This is called a regrowth potion. By applying here -> hxrv2.freeforums.net/thread/585/potion-use-thread You can ask a staff member to send you Kaz’s baby, juvenile and adult images and you can grow him back to old at the time length you see fit.
Thank you for joining us and I hope you enjoy playing alongside our community!
((I can’t send you PMs so this is publicly given to you from us)) x.20
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Post by Fiera Ferella on May 5, 2020 16:40:32 GMT -6
Hi Atari! Sorry for the problems with getting you started! We don't get a lot of new players, so it's hard for us to realize what's newbie friendly or not. The Adopt Me page will be updated ASAP with pet stages. In general, even though we're missing some images for the site, it can generally be assumed that the image of a pet corresponds to what phase of growth it is. Very rarely people will get permission to play a pet as a different phase of growth if the images do not exist, but that's a rare exception as opposed to the rule. To know what growth stage a pet is in, you can generally check the stats page for that species (found here: hxrv2.freeforums.net/board/32/mml-stats ) and the latest available stats indicate what growth stage that species in. Enjoy your regrowth potion! Again, sorry for all of the trouble. Edit: I should also note that we have an ongoing project to recreate the size charts that show how big everything is. They're still a work in progress, though.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 6:47:05 GMT -6
Hi Atari! Sorry for the problems with getting you started! We don't get a lot of new players, so it's hard for us to realize what's newbie friendly or not. The Adopt Me page will be updated ASAP with pet stages. In general, even though we're missing some images for the site, it can generally be assumed that the image of a pet corresponds to what phase of growth it is. Very rarely people will get permission to play a pet as a different phase of growth if the images do not exist, but that's a rare exception as opposed to the rule. To know what growth stage a pet is in, you can generally check the stats page for that species (found here: hxrv2.freeforums.net/board/32/mml-stats ) and the latest available stats indicate what growth stage that species in. Enjoy your regrowth potion! Again, sorry for all of the trouble. Edit: I should also note that we have an ongoing project to recreate the size charts that show how big everything is. They're still a work in progress, though.
The links are broken in the stat board, so what I see are broken image links with a list of stats. So, no, I can not tell nor would I be able to tell what the growth stages are. Again - completely new to this site specifically and I can't know what I don't know. Still, without any indication of size or age, there is no way for someone brand new to know or understand at what age the pets are. It becomes a guessing game. As a new player, I have a few issues at this point just: I shouldn't be guessing or taking hours of my day to read and reread just to be told a different set of rules or guidelines. I shouldn't have to, as a new player, be pointing out all the broken links or inconsistencies of the site, just from an understanding point. Just from a user on many varied forums and websites, pets don't usually start at full maturity in almost any collection or pet game, save for your first character or pet, depending upon the site. (GPXplus (eggs unless adult is adopted), BeastKeeper (but an age is listed, same thing young unless adopted or traded adult) ChickenSmoothie, DragCave)
Cold as this will sound, it's not my issue if the site doesn't have many new members. If the expectation is for people to be able to abide by the rules and understand the world, it should be easy for people to understand the world and not rely on memory to do so.
Just from the rules standpoint, the inconsistencies of the "no additional accounts" oh wait you can buy additional accounts by meeting x criteria...it's confusing just to see, as a new player, multi accounts with two different rules in completely different areas of the site.
Web Weaver requirements for instance: adults have a requirement of 5 loyalty (I would have 1 loyalty thanks to my skills). I can't pay for loyalty because I don't have any money because I haven't posted anything. I don't know that Weavers have that requirement without looking at the stats and MML Species Pocket Guide.
Speaking of paying for loyalty, I didn't know members had to pay for potions to level up? I'm not even quite sure what that is about, it's not really mentioned in The Everything Tutorial(There are also two broken links in the tutorial page under pets)
In short, I don't know what I don't know. I can't suggest making something better if I don't have the previous knowledge in addition to looking around the site. It wasn't until Flame's comment (which I feel was more aggressive than necessary) I had to stop and ask more questions.
Still, I don't know how to make something better when most of the answers given to me are "this is how it is", so now I have an uphill battle feeling like I'm fighting and struggling to point out the inconsistencies. I don't think that's fair to me or new members.
Far as suggestions go, I get the feeling this site is meant to stay as it is, a place for everyone who knew and remembered the original site. I feel like I've poured a lot of energy out into this already, and it was much much more than I expected or even wanted to give at this point. And, I'm not here to change something, just wanted to rp and have a good time.
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