The chiryma looked a little happier than he had in a while, perhaps it was the physical activity and the food? Renathan was not sure. Physical activity did tend to have an effect on humanoids that tended to make them happier, but not always, and he didn't know if that directly translated to creatures or not. Then again, most of his creatures preferred the yards to the barns, after all... Especially the sarane. Renathan then placed his backpack on the table and asked the creature to do the covering behavior. Immediately, the creature went up on guard- Renathan could feel it hard in his own emotions, a strong blooming paint of an emotion, and then it hid inside the backpack. Renathan was pleased with that; but now came the hard part- he would have to convince the creature to calm back down using the new command. He wanted to connect the idea of calmness with the hand symbol.
Renathan coaxed the creature out of the backpack and then made the hand symbol, forcing himself to feel very calm and secure; trying to personify safety through the emotional link that was newly formed between them. He had been hoping that they would eventually establish the link because he wasn't sure how to properly train this without one. Creatures that really trusted their owners tended to do much better with the training, from what Renathan heard. This made it a bit simpler, thank goodness. Renathan kept the hand signal up while gently petting the creature to calm it down a bit. The creature looked up at him with those big curious eyes and a determined expression. Renathan could feel the emotional reaction that felt distinctively like the 'wheels in it's head' turning to figure this conundrum out, and Renathan was pleased when the creature visibly relaxed, though still not quite all the way.
Renathan treated the creature with a small piece of jerky. He was quite surprised sometimes to see the creature eat meat so much because his jibiji preferred seeds nearly entirely. Renathan had even caught his jibiji eating an acorn a while back, and he made notes to study what kind of nuts jibiji might could eat. Renathan was already quite pleased with the progress. He had worried that he would have difficulty due to the creature not really having many... positive emotions? The creature seemed to see danger around every corner, from what he could feel, and had the incredibly urge to attack it, even at this young age. The creature's training, he knew, would be tantamount, and would have to be one of his more stringently trained creatures. Lisle could very easily be dangerous. Luckily for Renathan, the creature seemed to... Not quite trust him, but something else. Renathan wasn't sure about it, because the creature's emotions were very hard to really ready well. Renathan wanted to take his time figuring this out.
For now, Renathan waited until the chiryma seemed to be almost calm enough to sleep before he quickly ordered it to go find a hiding spot adequately. The creature seemed to give him an aggravated fluff-up of the downy feathers, and then an angry half roar half cheep before getting into the backpack with a huff. Renathan could have laughed, but he didn't want to excite the already angry creature altogether. After a moment or so, Renathan let the calm pass over him again, finding it easier this time but not quite forcing it as thickly as it had been. He makes the hand signal to the chocolate chiryma quietly, and the creature comes out, as calm as it could be. Renathan knew that the creature would never be quite as calm as the rest of his creatures, and certainly not like Auburn. Renathan was, however, pleased with what the tiny creature could give him.
Renathan was not a hard to please creature tamer, after all, and he knew that the creatures were all as different as they could be from one another. He also felt quite a bit bad still about the permanent injury the creature had, but since it now could move; even though it was going to be very hard going from here on out, Renathan felt quite a bit better. He had at first been afraid that the creature would never walk again, but he had been tentatively pleased when the creature had shown that it was determined to walk. Renathan allowed the creature another piece of jerky and a few pets, even though the chiryma was not quite happy about the pets themselves. Renathan wondered why that was; perhaps a holdover from the injury or the occurrence of the injury? He was curious. He still felt terrible about it, but he was trying not to allow it to affect the creature.
After the growing chiryma finished his jerky snack, Renathan ordered him back under cover, happy to see the creature quickly get up into the backpack to get under 'cover'. Renathan then made the hand signal, almost forgetting to feel a bit calm, but the creature had already been coming out of his hiding place, wobbling over to the middle of the table and looking more at ease, though never exactly so. Renathan gave him a pet or two and then repeated this training exercise again, and again, and again; each time the creature got better at recognizing the hand signal and growing calm. Renathan began mixing it up, trying to show it different hand signals to trick it; but the creature only ever reacted to the one that he had started training it to. Renathan was baffled at how well Chiryma tended to react to training; it was almost like they tended to take to training the best out of any of his more domesticated-like Labs creatures! Renathan was finally pleased with Lisle's reactions, and decided to move on to something else.
Renathan knew that if all else failed, he could always test the creature out later and make sure the training stuck. If it didn't, he could always go back and redo some training, and that meant more time spent with his critters. He was glad that he always had the chance to go back and work on things if need be. Renathan had been planning on going forward and doing some easier training, but he decided that it would be a great idea to work on the whole roaring thing that the creature had going on. Renathan had never really seen many chiryma chicks, but he had never heard of a bird roaring before. He figured that it would be a great defense tactic to give the creature some time to get away if something attacked it. Most creatures didn't do well if a good sounding roar was used in confronting it, after all.
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Renathan knew that the creature tended to roar at him whenever he frustrated him, so Renathan was left trying to figure out exactly how to do that without causing any obedience issues... Well, any more obedience issues than they already had, with Lisle being as disagreeable as he was. Renathan had no idea what to think about that, but he did know that it was probably more than halfway his fault so he couldn't really be angry with it. Renathan was quiet for a moment, and then decided on both a command and a way of teaching the roar behavior. Renathan knew in the back of his mind that he generally did not train roar to creatures he wasn't planning on using in the pit, but he still thought he owed it to Lisle to make sure he would be safe in the future no matter where they went. He didn't think he'd be able to go back into the mines for a long while though... The thought made him a bit sick.
Renathan decided to get started now that he had decided how to train this and what to use for the command. The chiryma seemed to sense a change in him suddenly, and glared him down, looking a bit sharp. Renathan could certainly see how close he was to that first molt now, he knew they would be lucky to go another week without it occurring. Renathan didn't know if he felt ready for that or not. "Lisle, Regale." The creature looked confused for a moment, and then Renathan allowed a strong wave of guilt to pass over him, as it had been threatening to do earlier on anyway. The creature gave him the customary little roar, as Renathan had known it would do; and Renathan immediately gave it positive reinforcement for this. He gave the creature a small piece of jerky for the trouble; and it was beginning to catch on that this meant it had done something good... However, what had it done? Renathan could feel the small amount of confusion leak through the link.
Renathan still petted the creature anyway, a bit glad that he had been able to tell what that emotion actually was. Renathan then sat back, allowing the creature to finish it's small jerky piece. Renathan knew that in order to get this taught properly they would have to repeat this again. Renathan had to also decide which training bit they were going to do after this, because they were running out of time today to get anything done; and Renathan knew he may not have much time before the creature would grow up to too big to get the most important things done and taught easily. Renathan then called out the command again, "Lisle, Regale." The creature seemed to notice that this was supposed to mean something, and he was in the training mode, having started to get used to working on different things with Renathan in this area. Renathan could feel the creature's confusion slowly melt away, but he could still see the creature's mind turning in it's facial features.
Renathan decided to give the chocolate colored chiryma a little hint by allowing a pang of guilt to permeate the link. Renathan was used to working with the link with his other creatures, and though he wasn't quite used to working with Lisle's link specifically, he still had some experience previously with links after all. The chiryma of course hated this, and made that roar at him; it wasn't a huge roar, definitely not enough to do what a roar was meant to do yet; but he was sure he could make the creature really want to roar at him if he worked hard enough. A bit of a shock went through the emotional link, as if the chiryma seemed to have understood something a bit differently than before. If that was good or not would have to be seen in a moment, as right now Renathan gave the creature a piece of jerky for the trouble of his roar.
The chiryma gave another half roar at him before taking the jerky piece, and the mammalian couldn't help but laugh about it. The creature was really cute, and kinda aggressive. The knowledge that aggressive creatures were quite scary as adults was a bit terrifying, but it was hard for Renathan to take it seriously at the moment. He found the critter so adorable when it was like this. The creature sent a sullen wave in return for his adoring one, as if it didn't quite appreciate the mushy stuff. Renathan waited until the creature ate it's jerky piece, and began mulling over how to get the creature to roar more loudly at him. He comes up with a plan rather quickly, and was a bit proud of it. Renathan called out the command again, "Lisle, Regale." The creature puffs up this time, showing off with a halfway decent little roar. Renathan immediately gives the creature another jerky piece.
Lisle took the jerky piece but still looked warily at Renathan, as if he wasn't sure he was doing it right. The combination of the Empathic Link and the chiryma's natural sensory of such things had tipped the creature off that Renathan seemed to want more from him, though he wasn't sure what he should do better. Renathan felt something like this from the empathic link, this non-surety. He wasn't sure what to make of it at first, but hoped that it would be useful in the training venture. Renathan stood up suddenly, and made the loudest 'ROAR' noise that he possibly could. The chiryma was shocked at first, and then tried to emulate him, roaring quite a bit louder than he had before, but still not loud enough. Renathan was still proud at this development, and then called out the command again. "Lisle, Regale!" Then, he made a loud 'Roar' noise, the best he could yet again, trying to get the creature louder.
The chiryma seemed to be catching on a little bit. Lisle roared quite a bit louder this time, and Renathan upped the ante by 'ROARING' again as loud as he possibly could, and the creature raised it's roar too. The roar wasn't quite what Renathan wanted quite yet, so he kept raising his voice. 'ROAR' was answered with another, louder roar, and then another 'ROAR' and an even louder roar. Eventually, a roar shook Renathan a bit; that kind of heart-stopping, ear-splitting noise that would get even deeper and rumblier as the creature got older. Renathan was actually very surprised at it; and that linked across the leak as Renathan could see the creature swell with more pride than any jerky piece could ever give. Renathan did indeed offer a jerky piece, but it was turned down and instead a petting was received well in it's stead. Renathan was certainly proud of that progress, but they had more work to continue on with.
Renathan didn't have to wait long until the creature calmed down a bit, and Renathan could consider running the command past him again. "Regale!" He called out, without the roar this time. The creature had quickly began to associate the noise with Renathan's command previously, and thankfully did not associate the roaring with just the 'roar' noise. He gathered up the noise in his throat and he called back with a loud roar. Though it was smaller than DoW's roar, in example, the roar still did what it was supposed to and gave Renathan great pause, shaking him at his core. That was the noise he wanted to hear! Renathan proudly offered another strip of jerky, which was accepted by the chocolate colored chiryma chick. Renathan was pleased with their progress thusfar, but still wanted to keep working to maintain that loud roar and make sure that it did not get at all and smaller again now that they'd made that progress.
Nadia: So the ruling seems to be that you’re welcome to post mature content wherever you feel best doing so as long as it is properly tagged! PG-13 applies to training, though. :3
Jul 4, 2020 12:12:31 GMT -6
Twilight-Claw: Should you have the answer for it Nadia will you post it on the cbox? <3
Jul 4, 2020 11:20:14 GMT -6
Nadia: You can for sure talk about Cloud 18 in suggestions! No worries there. As far as the rulings on what constitutes Cloud 18, I’ll have a chat. :3
Jul 4, 2020 10:31:26 GMT -6
Twilight-Claw: Though that with explicit details on whether that would be more cloud 18 or can be in used in the public parts of MML would be good to know, as if it is the first, I would need to edit that in with the suggestion. X3
Jul 4, 2020 10:09:23 GMT -6
Twilight-Claw: It would be great to know for certain whether it is allowed! Almost done with writing everything down, just need to finish the last bits of it. Its mostly just the wording of the rules that are going to be used, no explicit details of what isn't already in
Jul 4, 2020 10:06:26 GMT -6
Nadia: I'm happy to be corrected on this! I'll get some greater clarity for you guys.
Jul 4, 2020 9:12:55 GMT -6
Nadia: My assumption regarding Cloud 18 has been that general maturity is fine on the boards - language, violence, mature content - but anything revolving around the explicit would be best placed there.
Jul 4, 2020 9:12:34 GMT -6
Nadia: I'd be pretty confident to say that discussion of the Cloud 18 rules in suggestions would not be a problem! Properly labelled and not going into any potentially triggering content. :3 Though I'm sure the questions wouldn't warrant that.
Jul 4, 2020 9:11:29 GMT -6
Twilight-Claw: I have no idea, I only got what is on the news and at the site rules (which are the same) to go of on. :3
Jul 4, 2020 7:46:44 GMT -6
Darky: Wasn't the maturity part for general maturity, but explicit stuff would still be Cloud 18?
Jul 4, 2020 7:05:53 GMT -6
Twilight-Claw: *still busy writing it all out*
Jul 4, 2020 6:53:49 GMT -6
Twilight-Claw: I have no idea, but that's why I am asking if its possible to bring it up in the suggestion thread (though not about if it is still relevant, but some of the ruling) without threat of banning looming over my shoulder for even mentioning something about it.
Jul 4, 2020 6:53:32 GMT -6
Nerius: Is cloud 18 even relevant now that the whole site rating has been upped to mature?
Jul 4, 2020 6:41:35 GMT -6