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Post by Flare on Nov 4, 2019 15:34:21 GMT -6
DracoDeception
I'm not sure how many people remember when in the past we had those 9 baby crossbreedings. How about 10? 15? 20?! The initial $40 is fully covered by yours truly. That’s right, this is a three parent cross. Holy candles batman, there's a catch!
Yep, and that is... IT’S PUBLIC.
So what is this beautiful nightmare of prolific nature, you want to know?
DRUMROLL PLEASE…
A DRACONIC CROSS. Something we can take to the Canyons of Eterra as a companion. This is a cross of dragons, for dragons and all ABOUT DRAGONS! A potentially sentient cross of several dragons to make the other side of the war concerned and side eyeing us! In utter jealousy of course.
DRACONIC X TAT-LUNG X SARANE
Parents:
ONE DRACONIC
(shalaya for smarts, 9 intelligence, about the size of a cat, intangible body like the pure equi, healing breath that restores you better than any mml healing move, and dazzle lights for fabulous)
General Intelligence: 9 Size: 2 Power Level: 4
Stats Stamina: 3 Strength: 0 Resistance: 1 Dexterity: 5 Mentality: 11
Powers Abilities: Diurnal Spirit Moves: Intangible Body, Bathe in Light Breath: Healing Innate Magic: Dazzle Lights
ONE TATLUNG (won’t carry you, but still a magical beast of kickarse, and can both swim and fly) Cunning: 6 Mystic Average Top Speed: 30 mph, 100 (flying), 60 (swimming) Power Levels: 1 (baby), 3 (juvie), 6 (mature) Notes: lv 5 to train, loyalty 10 to respect Stamina: 5 Strength: 3 Resistance: 7 Dexterity: 10 Mentality: 5 Special Abilities: Swim, Fly, Telepathy Moves: Dodge, Bite, Nightmares
ONE SARANE (gladiator derg who isn’t smart enough to care about whether or not its a good idea to let you ride it, but can) OPEN FOR APPLICATIONS, TIER DOES NOT MATTER A 1 injection parent is fine, no maxed out injection offspring if possible Cunning: 3 Animal Average Top Speed: 20 mph, 35 (gliding), 50 (flying) Power Levels: 1 (hatchling), 4 (hen), 5 (drake) Special Requirements: None Notes: Adult males must be broken to use upon growth Stamina: 7 Strength: 7 Resistance: 5 Dexterity: 4 Mentality: 2 Special Abilities: Fly Moves: Climb, Gash, Bite, Headbutt,
OR ONE CHAODERG (SARANE/TATLUNG/IZER) AND A WIURN INSTEAD OF THE SARANE AND TAT-LUNG Cunning: 4 Beast Average Top Speed: 20 mph, 75 mph (flying) Special Requirements: None Size Chart: 4 Power Levels: 4 Notes: Loyalty 15 (to tame) Stamina: 5 Strength: 4 Resistance: 3 Dexterity: 6 Mentality: 2 Special Abilities: Fly, Prismatic Refraction, Electricity Resistance Moves: Gash, Peck, Sonic Blast, Chain Lightning, Chaotic Heart
Keywords: The ultimate dragon, magic-user, ? (open to suggestion)
PEOPLE IN: BD for 2 beebs Darky for 2 beebs Aster Riku Leafy for 2 beebs Twilight for 2 beebs Vixen
My main desire is that we get as many people in on this as possible.
Who's up for shaking the world as we know it? Deadline for joining is the 10th of November, so we've got all week to brainstorm and gather monies and people.
How do we pick babies? I have first pick, darky has second, the sarane/wiurn owner has third, and Darky and I will take our second picks from the leftover. Picking order is the ORDER YOU JOIN THE CROSSBREEDING. If you want multiple babies, you can but your second pick is also from leftover.
Picking Order 1. BD 2. Darky 3. Sarane or Wiurn Owner 4. … ?. Darky (second to last) ?. BD (last)
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Post by Noa on Nov 4, 2019 15:39:04 GMT -6
I'd like to join ovo
I have a few Sarane, including some T3 with 2+ injections, and a custom Wiurn whose... stats I need to register.
I also have Riven (cross in my sig) if that's of any interest.
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Post by Riku on Nov 4, 2019 15:40:11 GMT -6
Lemme just say. I’m in.
A Sarane would be better than he other option, for cunning-sake. I’m sure y’all can find a great one. Many exist. ;)
This is so exciting because my characters don’t do sarane or draconics, although I recognize the value in both. So to combine them and throw in a tatlung for extra epicness? Wow! Yes please! <3 Gimme the best of thrice worlds.
As for the keywords, I think darky literally means. Three. Words. So we’ll have to find one word that represents each idea we want. “The ultimate dragon” maybe as....DraKing? Lol Not that. You get the idea, though. Magic-user as Sorcerer? Third idea....well, we want the hardcore effect of it being the three coolest dragons on site. We want it to be magical/elemental like they all typically are as well. (Draconic being literally magical. Sarane being elemental with injections stereotypically, and tatlung being the wildcard.) However, we also are going for sentience (as a minimum). So how about the third being about the cunning level? We can say Mystic but I’m afraid of that being taken too similarly to Sorcerous. We could just say Cunning...but that can be taken too closely towards Mischievous.
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Post by Leafy on Nov 4, 2019 15:49:35 GMT -6
Ooh can I jump in for 2 offspring? One for Leafy and one for Fanged. Feel free to take a look through my Sarane to see if you like any for use. Kennel is here. Feel free to look through my Wiurn as well.
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Post by Twilight-Claw on Nov 4, 2019 16:13:11 GMT -6
If its still possible, I'd like to join in and go for 2 Offspring as well? Would need to think about the theme word on a suggestion for it, but I like both idea's of the crossbreeding. :D
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Post by Vixen on Nov 4, 2019 16:27:39 GMT -6
If open, I'd love to join. IF desired, I'd be happy to offer my T3 hen Sarane, she has a shitton of interesting stats, OR any of my Wiurn, including Blue. But seriously any combination would be incredible.
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Post by Darky on Nov 4, 2019 17:43:53 GMT -6
On keywords: the crossbreeding keywords can be more than one word (within reason) and most assuredly the current make-up will definitely be something dragon and something pretty darn smart (especially if going for tat/sarane/draconic). The extra keyword still missing should be something more about the 'nature' perhaps? Like, are these guys like 'good' dragons or bossy dragons or like what kind of aesthetic theme they'd go for.. Stuff like that x3
Third-parent-wise, our current First Option colour scheme includes peach-tones, white, black and deep purple, so whichever sarane it ends up being should probably bring in some complementary colours to those (but probably not too many of the same, makes it easier to make a lot of varied babies if there's various colours). Second Option is peach-tones, white, blues, greens, grey and a bit of maroon, so the wiurn should, likewise be something complementary to it.
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Post by Jack on Nov 4, 2019 19:32:08 GMT -6
Unfortunately Draconics aren't allowed by staff to be in a crossbreeding.
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Post by Darky on Nov 5, 2019 4:26:00 GMT -6
Unfortunately Draconics aren't allowed by staff to be in a crossbreeding.
I missed the explosion in the night about it (I think most of it was in the c-box), and believe everyone involved at the moment kinda deserves a bit more detailed of an explanation, please?
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Post by Jack on Nov 5, 2019 16:41:18 GMT -6
First off, we're going to move LE Draconics to be freely available in the Rookery instead of the Pit. I don't think any of us thought about that until now. People will get their points reinstated as well to make things clean and clear. People will just have to do a short RP in the Rookery to get their LE's once we get it set up.
Draconics are more people than anything else on this site, aside from the citizens of the Labs. They're more people than Harachiu and Tat-lung. They have their own society and everything. As someone mentioned, this cross would be like someone taking one of us and crossing us with an animal.
If we let this cross go through, a few things would happen: 1. This cross would not be allowed in the Canyon, ever. The Draconics who live there would never acknowledge this abomination came from them, the very idea would be disgusting and unclean, and they would never allow them to come close.
2. All Draconics linked to each user in this cross would leave their Caverns and go to the Rookery to be available for adoption by anyone. They're too disgusted by this having happened that they want no part of their family anymore.
3. Each user in this cross would be banned from the Canyon, permanently. The Draconics would never allow them to come back.
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Post by Renathan on Nov 5, 2019 16:55:53 GMT -6
Draconics have always been described by Spirit as being wholly different from other sentient beings, like Tats (save for that last half-baked bs year where he tried to turn the site on it's head) and Harachiu, as can be seen in the link. We'll try to have all draconic information available on site ASAP, but I also have a few other things that have my attention, as well as my schooling and homework (we're coming up on finals for the semester within the month, and we're scrambling). Basically, Draconics and other Peoples have a kind of pact going on, in-story. Harachiu and Tats don't, and neither do any of the other sentient species either maintained by the labs, or sold into slavery by the Veil back when it was a thing.
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Post by Darky on Nov 6, 2019 2:57:11 GMT -6
Okay, weird, the story about Draconics bonding that I found in my own research into the decision was more about Arash the Binder who basically turned them into half-starved beasts looking to fill the void in their heart with whatever they could come across, and it wasn't until the Soul Bonding method was revealed to them that they realized they could do so with humans to become whole and 'civilized' again. It wouldn't be the first time Spirit had two different origin stories/rule-sets happening on the site.
Far am I to question on methods, but I do think the decision to penalize any and all players who would attempt anything is far too severe and ruins the spirit of play on the site. Especially if the goal of recent updates and changes has been to promote playing with Draconics, don't you think?
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Post by Ashe on Nov 6, 2019 3:25:28 GMT -6
Please share with us a link to this story, we are constantly adding what we can find from Spirit to further detail things in all aspects of the site.
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Post by Darky on Nov 6, 2019 3:29:15 GMT -6
(I also messed up, the name was Ariesa)
((Also ironically Ariesa would have been the first Crossbreed in a way x3))
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Post by Renathan on Nov 6, 2019 7:52:32 GMT -6
Far am I to question on methods, but I do think the decision to penalize any and all players who would attempt anything is far too severe and ruins the spirit of play on the site. Especially if the goal of recent updates and changes has been to promote playing with Draconics, don't you think?
Darky yes, promoting play with draconics will be done in the future. We were attempting to get them working as they were again with slight changes for usability for hopeful future development. This is not a draconic, and would have nothing to do with the Canyon. This is a halfbreed, it's 100%, completely different, And Draconics are their own separate thing. Draconics have been treated as a People, they have a society. Would you allow a humanoid player-character race to cross with a species or pocketpet? The Draconics were meant to be ways of getting extra 'Player Characters', and though the unbonded draconics are not player characters, they are people by the lore of the site. Even if you did find some kind of weird origin story for bonding (like any group of people to have a religion that may or may not be true) it doesn't erase their society, and the pact they have with the other races. Crossbreeding would violate the pact and there are IC-consequences of Violating this Pact. There have always been IC consequences for Unscrupulous acts. IF people want to play with Draconics, the way they were intended in the spirit of the site, they can! :3 This has nothing to do with people playing with draconics or not. The site has always had stipulations, rules, and regulations- and everyone has always had to follow them, regardless of role on the site. Spirit has always had weird little differences here and there. I think the fact that spirit Never Allowed a draconic cross before should speak for itself. Harachiu, Tat, and Bellaroxi? Yeah, sure, he did those even if he hated Harachiu crosses. But there's no Draconic cross. He even explains why not in the link provided above. --I mean, I've been told no to injecting draconics before. Draconics are not in the same league as pets. I can inject a harachiu, and a tat- but why no Draconic? I was told it was because they were People/Player Characters basically, and I couldn't inject a player character, right? (Which sucks because I kinda wanted to give Mintaka Breathe Fire at the time but hey- a rule's a rule Regardless of who we are.)
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@theuserbase , Only from me as a person and not the mod team It is my personal goal as a mod to attempt to get the site working not only back up to the degree that it was, but perhaps beyond that in the future. However, attempting to get the Draconics pushed along a little (and allow people to prepare over time beforehand) seems to have created a personal squabble; and I feel terrible for even trying. My goal is not to create this kind of mess.
If anyone wants to Fault Me despite my personal convictions, it is understandable.
I regret trying to bring Draconics back up to the forebrains of the site (if I had left it alone, this would have never happened), but I'm going to continue on with the work I set forth, because I think that people will appreciate the restoration work in the future. Even if this road-bump has everyone rattled at the moment.
Please understand that the mod team does not plan on making this sort of thing a common thing; this was a one-time issue, and not an issue with crosses in general, customs, Dark Corners, or anything else. This simply had to do with the way Draconics are. Draconics are a special case; THE special case for crossbreeding. We do not make it our lives goal to have to do this sort of scrupple. In fact, I spend a ton of time trying not to have scrupples on site.
(Scrupples on site give me anxiety. x3)
In the spirit of avoiding scrupples in the future, I will attempt to get more site lore information to the userbase quicker, as quickly as I find things. Do understand that the reason why it isn't already here is because of the speed the mod team had to induce to even make this fixed site possible when Tapatalk did it's thing, and the fact that I joined the team only After the site opened up over here, a decent chunk of time afterward! I actually wasn't aware of this information until it was brought to me. I was a member, and a Young one at that, on v1 and v2, and I've forgotten more MML Information over the years than general information I will probably ever learn at College. x3
If you have anything you find that may be missing on site from here on out, feel free to send me it for sorting out. But if it had anything to do with v3, I don't need it. Spirit never finished v3, and we won't be using that material. (Also, if spirit didn't finish it, don't send it to me: IE- tat-lung redos and stuff.) I hope y'all understand what place I come from here, and are willing to help out with what you can to find information on site that we may be missing in the future if that is your kind of thing. :3
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