Suggestion to Mature Rating?
Jul 4, 2020 13:43:52 GMT -6
Post by Twilight-Claw on Jul 4, 2020 13:43:52 GMT -6
I’m a bit hesitant about presenting this, but I was hoping to make a suggestion on fleshing out the mature rating more, then the short piece it is right now? *grabs it*
For the first part, I’d like to suggest about the labels themselves.. People currently aren’t using them, currently, I am not either. What I am hoping to suggest is instead of having people need to label every thread in this ruling, could it be changed to:
This site began as a PG-13 rating, but has evolved into a more mature area. This means if a thread isn’t labeled with a [M] or [Mature] in its name, it is assumed to still be PG-13 rating, and will have to be treated as such by everyone. But if the creator of the thread intends to upgrade it to a Mature rating or make a new thread with a Mature rating, it will need to be labeled as such, with all the warnings in the first post of the thread. HOWEVER, any type of training required by the staff to read in order to approve is still under the PG-13 rating.
As for the warning tags themselves, my suggestion is this;
When you label your thread as [M] or [Mature] have inside the first post the very first lines be all the warning tags you intend to use, and people can expect to read within. Whether that is Violence, Sex, Excessive Cursing, Drugs, Angst, Romance or any other type of tag that would be needed to be labeled when it comes to mature content.
Right now it is described in the ruling that at the thread name there should be short labels such as (S) or (V) but having it be labeled in such a short way makes it easy to misinterpret what one can expect to read. As the (S) can stand for Sex, but just as easily for Slavery. While the (V) could stand for Violence but also for Vorarephilia. Which... Is something completely different. This way, there will be no misinterpreting what will go on in the thread, and having it be labeled as [M] or [Mature] will ensure people are already aware the rating is up, and they just need to check the first post to see what to expect IF they want to read more mature content. There is also the fact with using the thread name to label what one can expect, it is much easier to run out of space for warning tags. This way, that won’t happen and people can be free to put as many tags as they want within the thread for what they intent to write about.
There is also this bit.
Right now it says ‘anything goes’ so long as its labeled, but Cloud 18 has two rules on it that would go against it.
-Pedophellia (sex with children)
-Beastiality (humans fucking animals.. or the other way around)
PS: A special note on beastiality... animals mating with other animals does not cross this line - it's okay. Also, creatures such as werewolves (etc) are okay too, as long as their forms are... uh... compatible?
{human+human OR wolf+wolf, but NOT humanoid+wolf!}
Since those rules are on there, shouldn’t it also be in the main site ruling? Though, because of the way the Magical City Labs as a whole is like, I am hoping the bar of what is beastiality be changed to something a little better. As the extra bit of description on how Spirit describes it? It just makes it extra confusing for me when I would see a Mammalian having sex with a Human with that description in mind as Beastiality then already (or it is exactly talking about that?), not sure about everyone else, but I feel a different wording would be better. Not to mention, aside from all the other Races we can choose as a character (who all come in different shapes and sizes), or have available later on in the game such as Draconics (it makes way to much sense for them to be able to do it with their partner, since they share everything imaginable already when soul bonded), there is also the fact that the beings made in the lab city by either natural intelligence, ability or through Charm of Brilliance can become sentient. So what I am wondering about is if the ruling could be made a little more differently on what would be considered Beastiality on this site? Or if that last one would be done as seeing it more on intelligence based on whether it can, or cannot be done?
This is what I am hoping to suggest;
The only exception on what won’t be tolerated is Pedophilia (sex with children), or Beastiality (humanoids having sex with animals.. or the other way around) from which the latter animals having sex with other animals is safe to write. But because of how many sentient beings are made in the labs, it is in general the main character races that are safe to write in having sex with each other, and outside of it with other sentient kind will need to be discussed with the staff.
Or if intelligence based (which is easier to figure out if it is allowed without the need for asking);
The only exception on what won’t be tolerated is Pedophilia (sex with children), or Beastiality (humanoids having sex with animals.. or the other way around) from which the latter animals having sex with other animals is safe to write. But because of how many sentient beings are made in the labs, and the different character races that exists it is more based around a being’s intelligence outside of them, and Draconics of which only the soul bonded or from another ‘family’ is possible. Those below the intelligence of sentient are seen as ‘animals’ for they cannot be reasoned with in the sense one does as a person, and are tied too much to their animalistic instinct for them to not be seen as animals.
And ending it with;
On a final note, if someone asks you to stop something, or if they don't wish to allow something in one of their threads, please be mindful, and please be polite. If this cannot be handled maturely, it will be reduced to PG-13 once more.
All added together it will look like this:
3. Mature Rating
This site began as a PG-13 rating, but has evolved into a more mature area. This means if a thread isn’t labeled with a [M] or [Mature] in its name, it is assumed to still be PG-13 rating, and will have to be treated as such by everyone. But if the creator of the thread intends to upgrade it to a Mature rating or make a new thread with a Mature rating, it will need to be labeled as such, with all the warnings in the first post of the thread. HOWEVER, any type of training required by the staff to read in order to approve is still under the PG-13 rating.
When you label your thread as [M] or [Mature] have inside the first post the very first lines be all the warning tags you intend to use, and people can expect to read within. Whether that is Violence, Sex, Excessive Cursing, Drugs, Angst, Romance or any other type of tag that would be needed to be labeled when it comes to mature content.
The only exception on what won’t be tolerated is Pedophilia (sex with children), or Beastiality (humanoids having sex with animals.. or the other way around) from which the latter animals having sex with other animals is safe to write. But because of how many sentient beings are made in the labs, it is in general the main character races that are safe to write in having sex with each other, and outside of it with other sentient kind will need to be discussed with the staff.
On a final note, if someone asks you to stop something, or if they don't wish to allow something in one of their threads, please be mindful, and please be polite. If this cannot be handled maturely, it will be reduced to PG-13 once more.
Or with the last point of the warnings with intelligent based;
3. Mature Rating
This site began as a PG-13 rating, but has evolved into a more mature area. This means if a thread isn’t labeled with a [M] or [Mature] in its name, it is assumed to still be PG-13 rating, and will have to be treated as such by everyone. But if the creator of the thread intends to upgrade it to a Mature rating or make a new thread with a Mature rating, it will need to be labeled as such, with all the warnings in the first post of the thread. HOWEVER, any type of training required by the staff to read in order to approve is still under the PG-13 rating.
When you label your thread as [M] or [Mature] have inside the first post the very first lines be all the warning tags you intend to use, and people can expect to read within. Whether that is Violence, Sex, Excessive Cursing, Drugs, Angst, Romance or any other type of tag that would be needed to be labeled when it comes to mature content.
The only exception on what won’t be tolerated is Pedophilia (sex with children), or Beastiality (humanoids having sex with animals.. or the other way around) from which the latter animals having sex with other animals is safe to write. But because of how many sentient beings are made in the labs, and the different character races that exists it is more based around a being’s intelligence outside of them, and Draconics of which only the soul bonded or from another ‘family’ is possible. Those below the intelligence of sentient are seen as ‘animals’ for they cannot be reasoned with in the sense one does as a person, and are tied too much to their animalistic instinct for them to not be seen as animals.
On a final note, if someone asks you to stop something, or if they don't wish to allow something in one of their threads, please be mindful, and please be polite. If this cannot be handled maturely, it will be reduced to PG-13 once more.
Would fleshing it out in this direction of the rule be seen as better for anyone else?
As it certainly would be for me in explaining it more clearly, and gives more option in how many tags one can make on the thread. Although the Beastiality one is not perfect, its one I feel that helps more in explaining it better then Cloud 18 ever did for me.
I also think the Cloud 18 rules on that part could be better off in explanation (and a bit milder in tone perhaps?) with an update, especially now that the mature rating of the site is everywhere. It doesn’t have to be a part that is obsolete, it could still be a good place for chatting or placing (like in the past) risqué art. Maybe be more a part of the site that doesn’t need to be too invested in tags since it is expected your writing something with that mature content in mind?
3. Mature Rating
This site began as a PG-13 rating, but has evolved into a more mature area. This means anything goes, sex, violence, mature content, and anything else that can be thought of under this label. Please remember to put a tag in your thread name ( (S) (V) (M) and so on), along with a warning in your first post of the thread as to what people may expect in your writing. HOWEVER, training is still under the PG-13 rule, as it still needs to be read by the staff. If someone asks you to stop something, or if they don't wish to allow it in one of their threads, please be mindful, and please be polite. If this cannot be handled maturely, it will be reduced to PG-13 once more.
This site began as a PG-13 rating, but has evolved into a more mature area. This means anything goes, sex, violence, mature content, and anything else that can be thought of under this label. Please remember to put a tag in your thread name ( (S) (V) (M) and so on), along with a warning in your first post of the thread as to what people may expect in your writing. HOWEVER, training is still under the PG-13 rule, as it still needs to be read by the staff. If someone asks you to stop something, or if they don't wish to allow it in one of their threads, please be mindful, and please be polite. If this cannot be handled maturely, it will be reduced to PG-13 once more.
For the first part, I’d like to suggest about the labels themselves.. People currently aren’t using them, currently, I am not either. What I am hoping to suggest is instead of having people need to label every thread in this ruling, could it be changed to:
This site began as a PG-13 rating, but has evolved into a more mature area. This means if a thread isn’t labeled with a [M] or [Mature] in its name, it is assumed to still be PG-13 rating, and will have to be treated as such by everyone. But if the creator of the thread intends to upgrade it to a Mature rating or make a new thread with a Mature rating, it will need to be labeled as such, with all the warnings in the first post of the thread. HOWEVER, any type of training required by the staff to read in order to approve is still under the PG-13 rating.
As for the warning tags themselves, my suggestion is this;
When you label your thread as [M] or [Mature] have inside the first post the very first lines be all the warning tags you intend to use, and people can expect to read within. Whether that is Violence, Sex, Excessive Cursing, Drugs, Angst, Romance or any other type of tag that would be needed to be labeled when it comes to mature content.
Right now it is described in the ruling that at the thread name there should be short labels such as (S) or (V) but having it be labeled in such a short way makes it easy to misinterpret what one can expect to read. As the (S) can stand for Sex, but just as easily for Slavery. While the (V) could stand for Violence but also for Vorarephilia. Which... Is something completely different. This way, there will be no misinterpreting what will go on in the thread, and having it be labeled as [M] or [Mature] will ensure people are already aware the rating is up, and they just need to check the first post to see what to expect IF they want to read more mature content. There is also the fact with using the thread name to label what one can expect, it is much easier to run out of space for warning tags. This way, that won’t happen and people can be free to put as many tags as they want within the thread for what they intent to write about.
There is also this bit.
Right now it says ‘anything goes’ so long as its labeled, but Cloud 18 has two rules on it that would go against it.
-Pedophellia (sex with children)
-Beastiality (humans fucking animals.. or the other way around)
PS: A special note on beastiality... animals mating with other animals does not cross this line - it's okay. Also, creatures such as werewolves (etc) are okay too, as long as their forms are... uh... compatible?
{human+human OR wolf+wolf, but NOT humanoid+wolf!}
Since those rules are on there, shouldn’t it also be in the main site ruling? Though, because of the way the Magical City Labs as a whole is like, I am hoping the bar of what is beastiality be changed to something a little better. As the extra bit of description on how Spirit describes it? It just makes it extra confusing for me when I would see a Mammalian having sex with a Human with that description in mind as Beastiality then already (or it is exactly talking about that?), not sure about everyone else, but I feel a different wording would be better. Not to mention, aside from all the other Races we can choose as a character (who all come in different shapes and sizes), or have available later on in the game such as Draconics (it makes way to much sense for them to be able to do it with their partner, since they share everything imaginable already when soul bonded), there is also the fact that the beings made in the lab city by either natural intelligence, ability or through Charm of Brilliance can become sentient. So what I am wondering about is if the ruling could be made a little more differently on what would be considered Beastiality on this site? Or if that last one would be done as seeing it more on intelligence based on whether it can, or cannot be done?
This is what I am hoping to suggest;
The only exception on what won’t be tolerated is Pedophilia (sex with children), or Beastiality (humanoids having sex with animals.. or the other way around) from which the latter animals having sex with other animals is safe to write. But because of how many sentient beings are made in the labs, it is in general the main character races that are safe to write in having sex with each other, and outside of it with other sentient kind will need to be discussed with the staff.
Or if intelligence based (which is easier to figure out if it is allowed without the need for asking);
The only exception on what won’t be tolerated is Pedophilia (sex with children), or Beastiality (humanoids having sex with animals.. or the other way around) from which the latter animals having sex with other animals is safe to write. But because of how many sentient beings are made in the labs, and the different character races that exists it is more based around a being’s intelligence outside of them, and Draconics of which only the soul bonded or from another ‘family’ is possible. Those below the intelligence of sentient are seen as ‘animals’ for they cannot be reasoned with in the sense one does as a person, and are tied too much to their animalistic instinct for them to not be seen as animals.
And ending it with;
On a final note, if someone asks you to stop something, or if they don't wish to allow something in one of their threads, please be mindful, and please be polite. If this cannot be handled maturely, it will be reduced to PG-13 once more.
All added together it will look like this:
3. Mature Rating
This site began as a PG-13 rating, but has evolved into a more mature area. This means if a thread isn’t labeled with a [M] or [Mature] in its name, it is assumed to still be PG-13 rating, and will have to be treated as such by everyone. But if the creator of the thread intends to upgrade it to a Mature rating or make a new thread with a Mature rating, it will need to be labeled as such, with all the warnings in the first post of the thread. HOWEVER, any type of training required by the staff to read in order to approve is still under the PG-13 rating.
When you label your thread as [M] or [Mature] have inside the first post the very first lines be all the warning tags you intend to use, and people can expect to read within. Whether that is Violence, Sex, Excessive Cursing, Drugs, Angst, Romance or any other type of tag that would be needed to be labeled when it comes to mature content.
The only exception on what won’t be tolerated is Pedophilia (sex with children), or Beastiality (humanoids having sex with animals.. or the other way around) from which the latter animals having sex with other animals is safe to write. But because of how many sentient beings are made in the labs, it is in general the main character races that are safe to write in having sex with each other, and outside of it with other sentient kind will need to be discussed with the staff.
On a final note, if someone asks you to stop something, or if they don't wish to allow something in one of their threads, please be mindful, and please be polite. If this cannot be handled maturely, it will be reduced to PG-13 once more.
Or with the last point of the warnings with intelligent based;
3. Mature Rating
This site began as a PG-13 rating, but has evolved into a more mature area. This means if a thread isn’t labeled with a [M] or [Mature] in its name, it is assumed to still be PG-13 rating, and will have to be treated as such by everyone. But if the creator of the thread intends to upgrade it to a Mature rating or make a new thread with a Mature rating, it will need to be labeled as such, with all the warnings in the first post of the thread. HOWEVER, any type of training required by the staff to read in order to approve is still under the PG-13 rating.
When you label your thread as [M] or [Mature] have inside the first post the very first lines be all the warning tags you intend to use, and people can expect to read within. Whether that is Violence, Sex, Excessive Cursing, Drugs, Angst, Romance or any other type of tag that would be needed to be labeled when it comes to mature content.
The only exception on what won’t be tolerated is Pedophilia (sex with children), or Beastiality (humanoids having sex with animals.. or the other way around) from which the latter animals having sex with other animals is safe to write. But because of how many sentient beings are made in the labs, and the different character races that exists it is more based around a being’s intelligence outside of them, and Draconics of which only the soul bonded or from another ‘family’ is possible. Those below the intelligence of sentient are seen as ‘animals’ for they cannot be reasoned with in the sense one does as a person, and are tied too much to their animalistic instinct for them to not be seen as animals.
On a final note, if someone asks you to stop something, or if they don't wish to allow something in one of their threads, please be mindful, and please be polite. If this cannot be handled maturely, it will be reduced to PG-13 once more.
Would fleshing it out in this direction of the rule be seen as better for anyone else?
As it certainly would be for me in explaining it more clearly, and gives more option in how many tags one can make on the thread. Although the Beastiality one is not perfect, its one I feel that helps more in explaining it better then Cloud 18 ever did for me.
I also think the Cloud 18 rules on that part could be better off in explanation (and a bit milder in tone perhaps?) with an update, especially now that the mature rating of the site is everywhere. It doesn’t have to be a part that is obsolete, it could still be a good place for chatting or placing (like in the past) risqué art. Maybe be more a part of the site that doesn’t need to be too invested in tags since it is expected your writing something with that mature content in mind?